Re: What so special about PostgreSQL and other RDBMS?

On Sat, 29 May 2004, wizofoz2k_at_yahoo.com.au.nospam wrote:
> Galen Boyer allegedly said,on 29/05/2004 2:47 AM:
>
>> I'm not talking about this situation.
>>
>
> Well, I was. And I hope it was clear that was the case.
> What I don't see is why the subject has to be argued
> outside of what I put forward.
>
>> Probably alot cheaper than buying the software and then paying
>> for support, probably by a substantial amount.
>
> There is an entire body of history of IT, starting around
> 1982 and ending in 1991 or thereabouts, that say it isn't.
> That is why this industry moved away from delivering source
> code.

Well, the industry must have found a way to have it work out, because it is thriving.

>> I can't believe you are saying this Noons. Linux is very very
>> good.
>
> I can't believe you are putting a judgment of value against a
> fact. I NEVER said that Linux was NOT very, very good. That
> is immaterial. Would you for ONCE try to read what I said and
> understand it for what it is instead of putting a spin on it
> that was never there?

Sorry, but what you said seem to be loud and clearly saying that open source doesn't work and is rubbish.

>> I don't get it. Apache, Linux, JBoss, ... Enterprise
>> solutions that are open-source. You are wrong in what you are
>> saying here.
>
> "Enterprise solutions"? Since when a web server, an OS
> and a committee are considered "enterprise solutions"?
>
> Define "solution" please, because it is certainly
> COMPLETELY different from what I call an "application"!

Excuse me. Enterprise solutions that involve open source software.

> An end-user solution is NOT an OS, a web server, an appserver
> or a database! An end-user solution is an application. I
> don't give a rat's arse what is behind it,free or expensive or
> whatever.
>
> I'm mr customer, with a cheque book. You are selling me an
> application. Does it do what I want without costing me the all
> my savings? Is it solid and will it last me the expected
> lifetime of the investment? Yes or no? I couldn't care LESS
> how you wrote it, what is that crap you call "source code",
> what does it use behind the scenes.
>
> DOES IT DO THE JOB I ASKED IT TO DO OR NOT? Period. And that
> is preciously it. All this "free ware is inherently better
> because..." rubbish is totally immaterial.

Well, this once again is where you are wrong. Many customers would rather have an option where unknown future solutions can be solved without having to depend on the company which coded the solution. How many times does an application get coded in-house and put into production? Then, the client wants new functionality. Do they always call back the consultant that coded the app? No. They might do it themselves, or higher some other consultant company. The open source proposition is that all software can be that way.

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Galen Boyer